scott_d
3:43 Tue Jan 24
Re: Slav on developing young players - Alex V's head will implode
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*brave
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scott_d
3:43 Tue Jan 24
Re: Slav on developing young players - Alex V's head will implode
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Also, some players are suited to the Premier League and not to the lower divisions.
In the past we've been far more brace with promoting our youngsters but we seem to prefer cheap foreign imports when we're short in a position these days over giving young players a chance.
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scott_d
3:41 Tue Jan 24
Re: Slav on developing young players - Alex V's head will implode
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In the case of Oxford we've got Reid, Collins, Ogbonna and now Fonte but the only reason he is now 5th choice is because we signed another defender.
Obviously Fonte is a better defender than Oxford but there will ALWAYS be the option to sign a better defender than a youngster who hasn't been given a chance.
Same goes for any position. The option will always be there to sign a player with more experience and ability so at what point do the club take a gamble on a players potential and give him game time?
We need to have a bit more faith and do what Spurs, Southampton and Everton do every now and then. Just give them a fucking chance.
What is also quite disappointing is that the only youth players getting a chance for West Ham this season have been players developed elsewhere.
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Texas Iron
3:41 Tue Jan 24
Re: Slav on developing young players - Alex V's head will implode
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...1 or 2 season loans...
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Texas Iron
3:40 Tue Jan 24
Re: Slav on developing young players - Alex V's head will implode
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Agree in principle...
But 1 or 2 season lo and are too much...
Doesn't take that long to see if the player can jake the grade and step up to Prem stsndard...
How long were Rio and Lampard loans...???
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Trevor B
3:36 Tue Jan 24
Re: Slav on developing young players - Alex V's head will implode
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You mean like 'value'????
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Alex V
3:35 Tue Jan 24
Re: Slav on developing young players - Alex V's head will implode
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Feel free to change the word 'blueprint' for something else that you think fits better. For cretinous behaviour, picking out random words you don't like from other posts would have to be right up there.
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Eric Hitchmoe
3:33 Tue Jan 24
Re: Slav on developing young players - Alex V's head will implode
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"For real bullshit, David Gold's tweets about young players yesterday were right up there. The sort of thing I wouldn't expect even the worst of the morons on here to type."
What did he say?
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Trevor B
3:32 Tue Jan 24
Re: Slav on developing young players - Alex V's head will implode
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Did anyone say it was a blueprint, nor a rule written in stone?
Fuck me for someone that claims to be intelligent you really are a cretin at times.
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Rossal
3:31 Tue Jan 24
Re: Slav on developing young players - Alex V's head will implode
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For Reece Burke see comments regarding Oxford in the article
No point him being 5th choice with no europe so he went to get more first team footballl in the championship
Simple as that
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Alex V
3:27 Tue Jan 24
Re: Slav on developing young players - Alex V's head will implode
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Reece Burke did 30+ games on loan last season. Way more than 15. So I'm not sure what's gone on there - doesn't seem to fit his blueprint.
Fair to say I think Bilic is talking nonsense. It doesn't make a lot of sense, nor do I agree with much of it. My head hasn't imploded, but I guess my response is predictable enough.
For real bullshit, David Gold's tweets about young players yesterday were right up there. The sort of thing I wouldn't expect even the worst of the morons on here to type.
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stomper
3:27 Tue Jan 24
Re: Slav on developing young players - Alex V's head will implode
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So what's happening at Everton? 17, 18 year olds coming on and scoring on their debut?
I wouldn't mind that at West Ham. I hear young Billy Dane has some skill in his boots.
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Sven Roeder
3:24 Tue Jan 24
Re: Slav on developing young players - Alex V's head will implode
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Good bloke is Rio
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Grumpster
3:24 Tue Jan 24
Re: Slav on developing young players - Alex V's head will implode
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Defoe got 18 goals in 29 games for Bournemouth, they must have been gutted when that loan ended!
Some careers those 3 players alone went on to have.
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Trevor B
3:20 Tue Jan 24
Re: Slav on developing young players - Alex V's head will implode
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Sven
little titbit I found out awhile ago, Rio still goes back once/twice a year and has dinner with the landlady he stayed with when on loan at Bournemouth. he credits her with making him grow up whilst he was away from home and helping him to become the man/footballer he is now, even though he was only there for a few months. bought her a house too. nice touch.
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Sven Roeder
3:16 Tue Jan 24
Re: Slav on developing young players - Alex V's head will implode
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Rio and Frank played about 10 games out on loan.
Defoe played about 30
Have always said its about maturity being away from home as well as some experience against bigger bodies in meaningful games.
Unless its more about them developing physically I think those sort of numbers are enough.
Two seasons out on loan probably means you have doubts.
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Rossal
3:14 Tue Jan 24
Re: Slav on developing young players - Alex V's head will implode
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Players go on loan for a 15 game spell
They do well, they get a shot at our first team
They dont then see ya !
Looks like he feels the gap between U23 and first team is too far......and that a loan in the football league bridges that gap
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Trevor B
3:12 Tue Jan 24
Re: Slav on developing young players - Alex V's head will implode
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I would imagine that managers/coaches etc generally want to see players play regularly, 90mins, for a period of about 15 games to decide if they have the required quality, temperament etc to be promoted into the first team? Oddly enough I think most people apart from you V could've filled in the blanks there.
I'm sure Slav will be looking forward to your response.....
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Alex V
3:09 Tue Jan 24
Re: Slav on developing young players - Alex V's head will implode
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If I could understand what point he's making I could respond to it. What is the 'policy of 15 games' he is talking about?
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The Cult Of Bob
3:05 Tue Jan 24
Re: Slav on developing young players - Alex V's head will implode
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I never knew little fat frank played for Swansea.
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bubbleblower
2:52 Tue Jan 24
Re: Slav on developing young players - Alex V's head will implode
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Sounds sensible.
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